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alex_pk
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Cand spun "din afara" nu ma refer la alte tari ci la alti oameni.Oameni care nu practica Parkour shi care nu shiu ce este Parkour.Multa lume ne considera niste nebuni care sar "in cap" de pe ziduri si ne urcam pe cladiri.Unii ne considera vandali, sau chiar hoti.Altii se iau de noi pentru simplu motiv ca nau ce face sau vor sa para "smecheri".Daca se ia cineva de voi, chiar daca simtiti ca ii puteti infrunta, evitati orice conflict.Nu stati sa mancati bataie, dar nici nu sariti la bataie.Incercati sa explixcati ce faceti, ca  nu aveti intentii rele, si in primul rand, CERETI'VA scuze...chiar daca aveti impresia ca nu ati facut nimic.Incercati sa va cereti scuze, intoarceti spatele si plecati.

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dextracer
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Vad ca incerci sa faci forumul sa mearga. Buna treaba, chiar daca nu sunt prea multi useri.

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UrbanKlan
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"CERETI'VA scuze" nop , eu nu asa fac , am vo 3 baietzi la bl cu care practic , si mai is vo 2 care ma dispera cu chestii , si nutzi rupi gatu ? ei nu zic ca facem Parkour , cica "iauite-i si pe Yamakasi astea" ma dispera catiodata , ma mai alearga[fara sanse sa ma prinda] catiodata chiar imi place , ma mai antrenez ...  ! in rest numa bine baietzi

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Traceur
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Am observat chestia asta la mine la munca...Ma vad colegii ca stau pe siteuri despre pk si ma intreaba ce-i aia...le arat cateva filmulete si dupa ma fac nebun.Degeaba incerc sa le explic ca exista o intreaga filosofie cu parkouru asta, da ei se apuca sa faca misto, da asta e ce sa explici unor oameni plini de prejudecati si care nu fac nimic sa iasa din rutina zilnica.

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UrbanKlan
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scuze ca intreba ! catzi ani ai ? pe noi ne seaca parintzii cu chetsiile astea , la mine sa0u obisnuit si leam explicat ce este da mia fost frica l ainceput , ca poate nu ma lasa....da am alsa

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Traceur
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cossmin
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Eee...de tine e bine ca nu te seaca parintii. Chiar azi(dupa PRIMUL antrenament) am primit o predica de la parinti("sa faci si tu un sport care te formeaza", dar pana la urma ... tot ca mine a ramas.

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Traceur
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Uite ca sa vezi ce inseamna parkour...pentru ca e mult mai mult decat un sport , citeste urmatoru post.

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Traceur
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Hi everyone. To those who don't know me, i am a member of the PAWA team and, for that matter, of David's team. Although i don't post so much, i've been reading several posts during the last weeks.

I can see many of you are worried about what Parkour is becoming, what Parkour actually is, and the role of Pawa in all of this.

I want to express my point of view about all of this, and i hope it will make things clearer for some of you.


What is Parkour to me?
As most of you know, Parkour was mostly develloped by David Belle but influenced by his father. Raymond Belle had fought as a child during the vietnamese war against France. As you can hardly imagine, this extreme childhood experience had a tremendous effect on his personnality for the rest of his life. He understood perfectly the importance of being a stong man (thus having a strong body as well as a strong mind) and he was the best example as i discovered throughout many anecdotes that David shared with me. For example, aged only 8, he would train alone, jumping over and over and over, telling himself he needed to be stronger.
During war he would risk his life, hidden in trees, spying on french troops walking directly under him.
As a firefighter, with boots on and with no warming up, he would front flip through the window of a two storey building just to show an intimidated firefighter student that fear is in his mind.

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Later on, he became interested in Hebert's Methode Naturelle, since it was so close to his own ideas. I have no information however about him training MN or not, although he had indirectly experienced it during his years at war.

David describes his father as someone who could easily do all he (David) does... and much more.


David was very impressed by his father and admired him. He wanted to become just like him, a strong man. Although Raymond Belle didn't live with David, he would write letters to him and sometimes visit him. On these occasions, he would guide him with his experience. Not really training him, but making him give all he had.
From what i know, i can tell Raymond was the kind of person that never shows he is satisfied with what you do. He always makes you give your best.

And deep down, he was a very good man.

He knew that to be a strong man, you had to be capable of coping with any kind of difficulty. Being able to move with ease in any environnement was not enough. A man should be capable of dealing with anything !

This is the spirit he passed on to David.... And this, to me, is what Parkour is all about.

This is why i don't agree with my good friend "Hebertiste" when he says that "parkour is and has always been a specialisation in obstacle crossing and not a complete discipline.".


Nowadays, things have changed in the Parkour scene. Most traceurs want to be good at jumps, and that's it. I was lucky to visit Lisses at a time when I could still feel this initial spirit. A lot of things have happened since then. PAWA is one of them.
I start hearing about Parkour as a sport, and i don't like it. I start hearing about coaches and competitions, and i don't like it either.
What am i doing in PAWA then ?
Waiting... waiting to see what will actually happen, and most of all, waiting to have a good conversation with David about all this.


I have seen this infamous picture of UF members and french traceurs together. All i can say is that I haven't spoken to Stephane and Johann lately, so i can't tell their motives. I know only they are great traceurs and deserve respect.
And Kazuma ? I know him well enough to say he is not the money addicted type. Like me, he dreams of adventures in far away places and i have no doubt that he will stay on that path, we even plan to walk on it together in the future.
I don't know about Chau since i've met him only a few times, but i know that his brother Williams is no sell out for sure.



I cannot tell the future of official Parkour, but as Hebertiste said, it is highly predictable if nothing changes. I speak about "official" Parkour since it doesn't belong to anyone. Some people just want to make it theirs (PAWA or others) but as long as there will be free men, there will be free Parkour.


What are my plans for the future ?
I believe i now have reached a basic level of Parkour. What I mean by that is that i can do a precision jump, a saut de bras, a saut de fond, etc... I'm still far from a good level, but in my research for strength (see above my definition of parkour), i want to learn other things than jumps. I must learn survival techniques, i must learn to take care of myself in different and sometimes hostile countries, I must learn to fight, i must learn many other things and this is what I intend to do in the following years... This is, I believe, real Parkour.

Imagin someone who wakes up in a cosy home, who eats a good and healthy meal, who goes out to do some jumping around until supper time and then watches tv in his couch for the rest of the evening, eating candy. This could describe most of us, even me, but this is not doing Parkour, this is not being strong.
Being strong would be waking up after a short, cold night's sleep, with nothing to eat, in a remote area, with bruises all over your body, and having to do the biggest saut de bras in your life if you want to survive.
This is quite an extreme example but that's the type of difficulties I would be looking for now.

To me, this is the true way of Parkour, and I don't know how far i'll have the courage to go on this path, but I know i'll meet some of you guys on my way.


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UrbanKlan
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io nu-s engleza( !

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jorjak
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da cati ani ai de nu stii engleza , hai ca dak am timp maine ma apuc de o traducere

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UrbanKlan
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) 15 ... nu ma preocupa .... !

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Multi inainte   

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ciughi
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sal practic si io pk de 2 saptamani si as vrea niste sfatru imi puteti lasa un id sa va contactez va multumesc!

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FreeRunnerMan
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interesant subiectu"parkour din afara" yo impreuna q ink 6 baieti am format o "banda" de nebuni q care ma antrenez aproape zilnic de un an jumate ......desi nu prea incalcam regulile mai toata lumea ne sacaie k stricam k rupem k bla bla bla.......de obicei vorbim civilizat dar cand ne sare "spuma"facem galagie shi incepem sa fim k nijte animale......poate nu e bn dar noi ne simtim bn shi nu ne pasa.....cva pt oamenii enervanti    

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